Veterans can render salute to the flag

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Permalink Reply by Bob Hettel on May 12, 2008 at 7:09pm

The bill number is S.1877 and it allows active duty personnel who are not in uniform to also salute the flag.

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Permalink Reply by Tim Gulliford on May 12, 2008 at 9:44pm

AN ACT

To amend title 4, United States Code, to prescribe that members of the Armed Forces and veterans out of uniform may render the military salute during hoisting, lowering, or passing of flag.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. CONDUCT BY MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES AND VETERANS OUT OF UNIFORM DURING HOISTING, LOWERING, OR PASSING OF FLAG.

Section 9 of title 4, United States Code, is amended by striking `all persons present' and all that follows through the end and inserting `those present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.'.

Passed the Senate July 25, 2007.

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Permalink Reply by Douglas Karr on May 12, 2008 at 9:50pm

That's fantastic! Of course, I haven't saluted anything for quite a while so I'm not sure I'd be that crisp in my delivery.

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Permalink Reply by Tim Gulliford on May 13, 2008 at 3:38pm

Doug, It is like riding a bike...You never forget how. Yet, I know how you feel as being absent from the military for some time, when I joined the reserves the self-conscience part of me was making me think about proper salute, Dress, and other "stuff" that had been many years since I practiced it. My first uniform inspection was "outstanding" and I was used as an example for the rest of the crew. Talk about feeling good. When I had to salute a group of Officers, another first in a long time, I felt good on my delivery. I am sure you would do just fine.

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Permalink Reply by William D Karr (Bill) on May 13, 2008 at 7:29am

Wow!
Thanks for the replies and input, Shipmates.

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Permalink Reply by Tim Gulliford on May 13, 2008 at 3:41pm

The only thing I did not find was the approval from the President. One forum posting said it best. I would salute the flag even if this bill did not pass as I seriously doubt a "Salute Police" would be out in force. We are all true Patriots and earned our right to salute our Nations Colors.

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Permalink Reply by William D Karr (Bill) on May 13, 2008 at 4:20pm

I think that the article said he signed on January 28, 2008.

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Permalink Reply by Pete Fanning on June 11, 2008 at 4:51pm

I've actually posted extensively on S.1877 here.....the basic update is that the provisions that a permit you to salute were rolled into the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 that was signed into law by President Bush on Jan. 28th, 2008. This was H. R. 4986.

Inhofe's legislation never made it out of committee even though it passed by unanimous consent.

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Permalink Reply by Albert H. Murray on June 17, 2008 at 7:27am

I say it's about time, though I see very few citizens even noticing our flag. I've saluted the flag at the post office everyday for years and never had a comment from observers. It should not take a law to promote patriotism and respect. God Bless America, we need it, more now than ever, Nuf said.

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Permalink Reply by Tim Gulliford on June 18, 2008 at 4:41am

I agree. It should not take a law for Patriotism nor should it take a major event like 9/11 either. Just living in Our Great Nation is all it should take.

I find it a shame how many people during the opening ceremonies of a baseball game do not show respect to the flag; especially the younger crowd. I wonder how many of them ever pledged allegiance to the Flag?

Makes one wonder...

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Permalink Reply by D.John Maddalena on August 30, 2008 at 7:42am

Tim, I just happened to be reading through the Scuttlebutt when I saw this pic you had posted with your comment. How big a slap in the face do true Americans need before they wake up. The other day I saw on the advertisements on the side bar " Navy Vets for Obama ". How can any American honestly believe this man is the best choice for the highest job in this country. Every time I look at our Flag flying high and free I think to myself " Some Gave Some,Some Gave All ". I get all teary eye and chocked-up inside.
I get a monthly news letter from a Native American website and they had a quote by one of the POW - WOW dancers that I would like to share : " If you do not stand with what is right, you become a collaborator in acts of injustice. We need the moral courage to stand and be counted. It is about the power of one. And when the power the power of one meets other powers of one, there is a collective voice." Roshi Tome Roubideaux, Lakota Native American.
I'm sorry if I have offened anyone ,but it makes me sick at what I see going on in this country. I saw Ted Nuggent on Glen Beck last night and he ripped Obama a new one, said he was voting for John McCaine, but he was going to stay on his ass till he got things right. And that there is a revolution on the way from " We The People ".Sorry Tim just had to vent a little.
D.John " Blue "Maddalena

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Permalink Reply by Tim Gulliford on August 30, 2008 at 4:50pm

McCain made a right move in this race:

For some who disagree with Sarah Palin being a VP: Go compare Sarah Palin's visit to Iraq/Germany to nobama's and tell me who will get more respect. The picture alone will give you a hint ;) Once you are done, just do some reading on what she is all about.

You gotta love Ted.

John- Thanks for catching up...ha,ha,ha. Heck, no need to apologize as I feel the same way and totally understand your frustration with the direction this Nation is heading.

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